The Mind and the Brain and the Truth

(The whole truth is revealed in this dialogue between J Krishnamurti and Dr. David Bohm. Distinction between the Mind and the Brain should be noted for this understanding).

The Mind and the Brain are two different things.

Brain is like a computer, programmed and conditioned physically, psychologically, chemically, biologically.

Self is not real but the conditioning of the brain. Conditioning of the human brain is causing damage in the world. Time itself is part of the conditioned brain which is consciousness, therefore it cannot transform consciousness. Any form of becoming is an illusion and illusion is time. To bring transformation in psyche time based practices can not help us. As long as the brain is conditioned it cannot be free.

Mind is not conditioned and hence it is always free. Mind is universal, undivided, unconditioned, has nothing to do with the body and brain. Mind is not polluted by any thought. Mind is part of space and silence.

Thought can create the illusion of space between two points. This thought based space is not the space of the mind.

Relationship of the brain with the mind is always limited.

Insight being part of the mind can change the brain. Brain can become an instrument of mind when it is not self centered. Experience, knowledge, thought are part of a limited brain hence they all are limited.

Intelligence, compassion, love are part of the Mind. They are all interrelated. When the brain is attached to religious beliefs it cannot be compassionate, cannot love others and cannot be intelligent.

Contact between SILENT Mind and the brain is possible only when the brain is Quiet, then the silent mind can operate through the quiet brain.

Whenever there is choice, brain creates conflicts. Brain divides between actuals and ideals. Ideals are products of thought that create havoc in the world. Brain should choicelessly remain with actual - What-is.

Can a conditioned brain connect with an unconditioned mind through meditation?

When we do anything consciously, it's an act of thought so the meditation being part of thinking process cannot un-condition the brain, cannot quiet the brain. Meditation can only conform the brain to another pattern only.

Attention is not concentration and in attention thought is not operating.

As long as there is desire to become something, meditation or silence can not be possible.

When self is not, attention is. So the ATTENTION is the contact point between the brain and the mind.

When there is no movement of thought there is perception. When there is attention, there is perception. When attention and perception is there, there is intelligence. When the brain is quiet then only the attention and perception is there.

Take an example of suffering, because humans have been suffering since ancient times. Can suffering end?

Brain being part of suffering cannot end suffering. Human Thought has created suffering by dividing people in the name of different gods, religions, nations, so thought also cannot end suffering. Good or bad thoughts, both are thoughts only and they both cannot end suffering. This Insight creates mutation in the brain and wipes out all the conditioned knowledge. All traditions and politicians has failed to end suffering rather they have added more suffering.

Few brains who are coming in contact with the mind can change the entire human consciousness.

Mind is pure unlimited energy whereas the brain is very limited. So any tiny brain that becomes part of unlimited Mind can transform other tiny brains.

If existing meditation techniques are not helpful then is there any other way out?

Find out if experiencer is different from his experiences? Me and my anger seem to be different but they are one.

When one realizes this actually he eliminates the conflict. When Experiencer is different from experience then there is division and in every division there is conflict.

When one realizes that experiencer is the experience then division dissolves and thereby all the conflicts in the World.

This is the way to start, start simply, for this self knowledge is very important.